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Rob Noles is still digging up ancestors!

 

Being related to a famous or infamous person doesn't change who we are, but it's interesting none the less.   On this page, I will catalog the known connections between a person or persons with the surname Knowles and persons that are well known for some reason.  Should you have suggestions concerning Knowles Connections, please let me know.
 

Robert B. Noles
Director, KKNFA

 

  The CROCKETT - KNOWLES  CONNECTIONS

  The POCAHONTAS - KNOWLES  CONNECTION

  PILGRIMS (Mayflower Passengers) - KNOWLES CONNECTION, by George I. Knowles


The CROCKETT - KNOWLES  CONNECTIONS

The series of relationships shown below demonstrate the connections among four prominent surnames (Crockett, Knowles, Montgomery and Skelton) from Indiana and Kentucky from the 18th and 19th centuries.

The Knowles - Crockett connection is a little complicated and Davy Crockett is not really a Knowles descendant but some Knowles descendants are related to Davy.  The connection is via the Knowles from Delaware who settled in Southern Indiana after first migrating to Greene Co., Georgia in the late 18th century.  When some of these Greene Co., Georgia Knowles migrated to Indiana in the early 19th century, some stopped off in Kentucky for a few years before proceeding on to Indiana.

Asa Knowles (1802-1898) married Matilda A. Montgomery (1809-1857).  Asa Knowles was the great grandson of Edmund "Old Silverhead" Knowles, one of the main Knowles lines in the U.S.

Matilda A. Montgomery was the daughter of Walter Crockett Montgomery, Sr. (1784-1856) and the granddaughter of Thomas Montgomery, Sr., R.S. (1745-1818) and Martha Ellen Crockett (1749-1803).  Martha Ellen Crockett was the granddaughter of Joseph Louis Crockett, Sr. (b 1676). Davy Crockett (1786-1836) was the great great grandson of Joseph Louis Crockett, Sr.  With me so far?   Martha Ellen Crockett was therefore the 1st cousin of Davy Crockett, two generations removed.

Martha Ellen Crockett was the grandmother of Matilda A. Montgomery who married Asa Knowles.  Therefore, the descendants of Asa Knowles and Matilda A. Montgomery would be connected to Davy Crockett with Joseph Louis Crockett, Sr. as their common ancestor - you do the math.

Here are the connections:


  • Davy Crockett (1786-1836)

  • s/o John Crockett (1752- ?)

  • s/o David Crockett (1730- ?)

  • s/o William Crockett (1709- ?)

  • s/o Joseph Louis Crockett, Sr. (1676- ?)


  • Richard Bennett “Red” Skelton (1913-1997)

  • s/o Joseph Elmer Skelton (1878-1913) (from Princeton, IN)

  • s/o Newton O. Skelton (1836-1880)

  • s/o James C. Skelton (1793-1865) & Mary Montgomery (1802-1869)

  • 8th GGS of John Shelton (1474- ?) & Anne Boleyn (1475- ?)

  • Anne Boleyn, sister of Thomas Boleyn, f/o Anne Boleyn, Queen


  • Mary Montgomery (1802-1869)

  • d/o Thomas Montgomery, Jr. (1776-1847)

  • Thomas Montgomery, Sr., R.S. (1745-1818) & Martha Ellen Crockett (1749-1803)

  • s/o Hugh Montgomery, Sr., R.S. (1705-1779)


  • Martha Ellen Crockett (1749-1803)

  • d/o Joseph Louis Crockett, Jr. (1702-1767)s/o Joseph Louis Crockett, Sr. (1676- ?)


  • Asa Knowles (1802-1898) m Matilda A. Montgomery (1809-1857)

  • s/o James Knowles, Sr., R.S. (1757-1839) & Patience Marvel

  • s/o Richard Knowles, Sr. (1715-1791)

  • s/o Edmund “OSH” Knowles (1685-1762)

 


  • Matilda A. Montgomery (1809-1857)

  • d/o Walter Crockett Montgomery, Sr. (1784-1856)

  • s/o Thomas Montgomery, Sr., R.S. (1745-1818) & Martha Ellen Crockett (1749-1803)


  • Patsy Ellen Montgomery (1828-1918) m John Lowery Knowles (1823-1905)

  • d/o William Montgomery, Sr. (1801-1847) & Margaret Stone (1808-1857)

  • s/o Joseph Montgomery (1773-1824) & Nancy Davis (1774-1849)

  • s/o Thomas Montgomery, Sr., R.S. (1745-1818)


  • Margaret Stone (1808-1857)

  • d/o Thomas Allen Stone, Sr. (1785-1822) & Dorcas Montgomery (1787-1861)


  • Nancy Jane Stone (1813-1871) m Jesse Marvel Knowles, Jr. (1816-1868)

  • d/o Thomas Allen Stone, Sr. (1785-1822) & Dorcas Montgomery (1787-1861)

 


  • Dorcas Montgomery (1787-1861)

  • d/o Samuel Montgomery, Sr., R.S. (1743-1815)

  • s/o Hugh Montgomery, Sr., R.S. (1705-1779)


  • John Lowery Knowles (1823-1905)

  • s/o James Knowles, Sr.., R.S. & Elizabeth Smith (1782-1830)

  • s/o Richard Knowles, Sr. (1715-1791)

  • s/o Edmund “OSH” Knowles (1685-1762)


  • Jesse Marvel Knowles, Jr. (1816-1868)

  • s/o Jesse Marvel Knowles, Sr. (1787-1852)

  • s/o James Knowles, Sr., R.S. (1757-1839) & Patience Marvel (1758-1817)


  • Patience Marvel (1758-1817)

  • d/o David Marvel, Sr. (1729-1796) & Comfort Prettyman (1725-1789)

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The POCAHONTAS - KNOWLES  CONNECTION

Richard Pace married Rebecca Poythesis.  Richard was the grandson of Capt. John Knowles and Mary Brodnax from Henrico Cou nty in the Virginia Colony.  Rebecca’s aunt, Jane Poythesis married Thomas Rolfe.  Thomas was the son of John Rolfe and POCAHONTAS.

Here are the connections:


  • Richard Pace, IV m Rebecca Poythress

  • s/o Mary Knowles (1641-1692) & Richard Pace, III

  • d/o Capt. John Knowles (1612-1685) & Mary Brodnax


  • Rebecca Poythesis

  • d/o Francis Poythress, Jr. & Rebecca Cogan

  • s/o Francis Poythress & Mary


  • Jane Poythesis m Thomas Rolfe

  • d/o Francis Poythress & Mary


  • Thomas Rolfe (1615-1675)

  • s/o John Rolfe (1585-1622) & POCAHONTAS (1595-1616)

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PILGRIMS  -  KNOWLES  CONNECTION

by George I. Knowles,
 Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida
12 February 2007

BEGINNINGS


One cannot remember too far back into our primary years, and even if we manage to retain precious or infamous memories, it would rarely be about our ancestors, their environs, and historical paths.  The oldest person I knew at that time was my grandfather, Clarence Elwood Knowles, (1852-1937), an extraordinary clarinetist who played with the Scranton Symphony.  The Scranton Tribune of November 22, 1906 called him "one of the leading clarinetists of this city, playing first clarinet in the Scranton Symphony under Professor Theodore Hemberger". He also tuned pianos, and on occasion marched up Lackawanna Avenue playing with the Baur Band.   Even when he lived at my house, during the last two years of his life, 1935-1937, he never mentioned Pilgrims, even on Turkey Day. (The Scranton Historical Society of Pennsylvania provided the above historical musical facts about Grandpa.)

At age 6, I first heard of Pilgrims at Glenburn Grade School, just 27 steps from my Glenburn home, where I enjoyed the first two primary grades of my formal schooling, under the tutelage of Miss Anna Northrup.  It was when the first graders pitiful efforts at producing art in the form of paper turkeys lined the blackboards, that we 1st and 2nd graders were impressed with a smattering of history during pre- and post Thanksgiving Holidays.   But the First Citizens of Plymouth Colony were barely mentioned as I advanced thru 3rd and 4th grades, under Miss Anne Northrup (cousin of Anna), 5th and 6th grades guided by Miss Tugend, and 7th and 8th grades under our principal, Mrs. Puhl.  After all it was the WWII years of 1939-1945.  Our thoughts were turned to gathering scrap iron et al!!!

By the time Clarks Summit / Clarks Green High School (now Abington HS), Pennsylvania got their hooks on me, 1945 through 1949, I never lent another waking moment to the thoughts of my forefathers.  High School studies never revealed to me my ancestral heritage, although it provided the opportunity of a lifetime to meet, and later marry, my heart’s desire.

 


INITIATIVES  IN  DISCOVERING  PILGRIM  ANCESTORS


I took none for years!  How did the now consuming hobby of my life lay fallow for such a long period as 40 years?  I know that my family, wife, and six children, plus 30 years, 9 months, and 18 days in the Navy demanded my attention during this period.  But the quest to discover Pilgrim ancestors was yet to be initiated.


My father spent 25 years in the employ of the Hudson Coal Company in Scranton, Pennsylvania as an electrician at the Von Storch colliery; However, he never, ever mentioned Pilgrims, or Mayflower passengers as our ancestors.


Before my father passed on in June, 1962, he reminded me that our line originated in New England, and a sizeable number of them were buried in Thomaston, Maine.  So I started with a query to Hazel V. Bird, Town Clerk, in Lincolnville, Maine, a town near Thomaston.  Ms. Bird wrote back and painstakingly filled me on with the DOB, DODs and marriages of a few of my ancestors.

 

This revelation was not awe-inspiring, and did not reveal my relatives in any depth.  The years rolled on, and in 1974, when the Navy assigned me an investigative job, with an office at the corner of Washington and Flatbush avenues in Brooklyn, I then had enough time to develop my genealogical notions.


On March 13, 1974 in a letter from SNUG HARBOR OLD SAILORS HOME, regarding Uncles Levi & Marcus Knowles, brothers of my Great Grandmother Knowles, came into my possession.  This letter revealed that they were alive during the Civil War, and were mariners.


One who was employed as a seaman aboard the Schooner Carie Melvin, deployed at sea during the Union’s attempt to block southern ports.


The Director of Snug Harbor gave me the name of Virginia KNOWLES Hufbauer who was compiling a genealogy of my Great (7) Grandfather, John Knowles family, of Hampton, New Hampshire, 1660 - 1978.


I exchanged correspondence with Ms. Hufbauer, and sent her my immediate families curriculum vitae.

 

 

The  MAYFLOWER  PASSENGER  CONNECTION


In 1978, the publication of Ms. Hufbauer’s book, "Descendants of John Knowles, 1660-1978", revealed a Knowles / Fuller family connection; i.e., My 3rd great grandfather, Simon Knowles, R.S. married Lydia Fuller, a descendant of Samuel Fuller, a Mayflower passenger.  (Note: Simon Knowles, R.S. is a  3rd great grandson of John Knowles (c1632 - 1705), the New Hampshire Knowles Progenitor #01)


Research of Simon Knowles, R.S. life, and military retirement, revealed pension papers that made me curious about the Fuller connection.   Simon enlisted at Cambridge, Massachusetts, for one year, served as private in Captain Amos Merril’s company, Colonel John Stark’s New Hampshire Regiment according to a Veteran‘s Administration Letter of December 14, 1956.   He wintered over in George Washington’s Continental Army at Valley Forge September, 1777 - May 1778 according to Muster & Pay Rolls obtained from the General Services Administration, Washington, D.C.   These Muster & Pay Rolls placed him at White Plains, Danbury, Exeter, Jacobs Plains, Pumpton, Stoney Point, the Highlands and Fort Plain for the next 7 years, and he was mustered out of the service in 1883.  (Source: Pension papers from the General Services Administration)


Simon married Lydia Fuller on 3 January, 1781, in Fort Weston (now Augusta), Maine while he was still in the Continental Army, and the couple had 14 children by 1810.


Lydia, it turned out, was the daughter of Consider and Lydia Bryant Fuller.  Consider was the son of John Fuller, who was the son of Samuel Fuller, 3rd, who was the son of Samuel Fuller, 2nd,  who was the son of Samuel Fuller, Sr., Mayflower passenger, and self-trained ship surgeon.  (The source of this Fuller data is in a book titled “MAYFLOWER FAMILIES Through Five Generations”, Volume Ten, SAMUEL FULLER.)

 

JOINING  the  FLORIDA  STATE  MAYFLOWER  SOCIETY


Joining the Mayflower Society and the lengthy membership application required me to search further into my holdings for proof in depth for a continuous Knowles / Fuller connection.  This procedure required me to provide DOB, DOD, locations, plus copies of family Bible pages, marriage certificates, death certificates, pension documents and narratives, and copies of genealogy pages to the Society.  Mayflower Headquarters in Plymouth, Massachusetts then completed the connection by advising me of their sources, chronologically from Mayflower Passenger Samuel Fuller to my 3rd great grandfather, Simon Knowles.


On 12 December, 2006, I was accepted into membership in the Florida State chapter of the MAYFLOWER SOCIETY, having spent about 6 months in the process. 

 

For KKNFA members who are interested, there is a Society of Mayflower Descendants state organization in the 52 states of the U.S. and Canada.


I credit KKNFA as a factor in motivating me to research and discover the fact that my family is a “MAYFLOWER FAMILY.”
 

George I. Knowles

Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida

12 February,  2007

 

 


 

Knowles  -  Fuller

 

George I. KNOWLES

   s/o  Irvin Foy KNOWLES  (1890 - 1962)

      s/o  Clarence Elwood KNOWLES  (1855 - 1938)

         s/o  Lewis Allison KNOWLES  (1833 - 1907)

            s/o  David KNOWLES  (1786 - 1874)

               s/o  Simon KNOWLES, R.S.  (1759 - 1834)   m   Lydia FULLER  (1766 - 1857)

                   s/o  John KNOWLES, R.S.  (1732 - 1777

                       s/o  Amos KNOWLES  (1689 - 1746)

                           s/o  John KNOWLES, Jr.  (1661 - 1745)

                              s/o  John KNOWLES  (c1632 - 1705)
                                         
[Knowles Progenitor - New Hampshire #01]

 

 

Lydia FULLER  (1766 - 1857)

   d/o  Consider FULLER  (1738 - 1828)

       s/o  John FULLER  (1697 - 1778)

           s/o  Samuel FULLER, III  (1658 - 1728)

               s/o  Samuel FULLER, II  (1624 - 1695)

                   s/o  Samuel FULLER  (1579 - 1676)
                             
 [Mayflower Passenger]

 

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